It is not possible to waste your time by night or day. Barry Magid May 6th 2016

Delusion and enligthenment are two perpectives that describe the same world, and we really have no idea what leads one to change perspective. Where does effort in practice come in? What can effort change? The Tao, the way, contians both perspectives of enlightenment and delusion. Ultimately, the way is not something you develop or attain.

The Gateless Gate, Case 19 Ordinary Mind is the Way

Joshu asked Nansen, "What is the Tao?"
Nansen said, "Ordinary mind is the Tao"
Joshu asked, "Should I try to direct myself towards it?"
Nansen said, "If you try to direct yourself, you betray your own practice."
Joshu asked, "How can I know the Tao if I don't direct myself?"
Nansen said, "The Tao is not subject to knowing or not knowing. Knowing is delusion. Not knowing is blankness. If you truly reach the genuine Tao, you will find it is vast and boundless as outer space. How can this be discussed at the level of affirmation and negation."
With these words, Joshu had sudden realization.

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